Your two favorite long winded podcasters are talking about word vomit and verbosity today, which is particularly fitting since today’s Sword of Laman segment covers the last part of the 2nd Givens book, The Crucible of Doubt. We then cleanse your palette with some good news out of Illinois. Enjoy!
Sword of Laman:
https://freshairarchive.org/segments/richard-dawkins-argument-atheism
Happy News: Illinois keeps 988 lifeline for LGBTQIA+ youth even after national extension hangs up: https://khqa.com/news/local/illinois-to-keep-988-suicide-crisis-lifeline-for-lgbtqia-youth-after-national-extension-hangs-up-federal-funding-cuts-trump-administration-governor-jb-pritzker-idhs-secretary-dulce-m-quintero-mental-health-behavioral-services-counseling-support-teens
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
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The Church History Library of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints just dropped a revelatory bomb on the Mormon history community and we’re gunna talk about it. John Taylor (prophet 1880-1887) wrote a revelation saying that the new and everlasting covenant is actually “everlasting” and cannot be revoked or abrogated. However, the prophet after Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, wrote the First Manifesto bringing the church into compliance with the law of the land. However, plural marriages continued to be performed. The Reed Smoot hearings turned the eyes of the nation to the kingdom of god in Deseret and every clandestine plural marriage put a lie to the Manifesto. Church leaders are excommunicated and it leads to the formation of the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints. The church has suppressed this revelation in its vaults for nearly a century while openly denying that it even existed. After that we chat about more secrets hiding in plain sight with the movie National Treasure. We wrap with happy news about diabetes therapy and a gaggle of listener mail.
Show Notes:
https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/3aec2ea6-fdeb-4866-9529-47e27f9cd3b9/0/0?lang=eng
https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/record/71550f40-40e2-4f22-a513-d9efed66649a/0?view=browse
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/lds-church-authority-and-new-plural-marriages-1890-1904/
https://mormonr.org/qnas/vFgD6f/john_taylors_1886_revelation/research#re-fbkJxk-qnXgKg
https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/1886-Revelation-article.pdf
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/John_Taylor%27s_statements_regarding_polygamy
https://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2025/06/john-taylor-and-the-1886-revelation/
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/john-taylor
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/first-annual-message-first-term
https://josephsmithfoundation.org/john-taylors-last-days-vision-1877/
https://www.fromthedesk.org/john-taylor-revelations/#_ftn1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYcVJKnfmg
https://rsc.byu.edu/prophets-apostles-last-dispensation/john-whittaker-taylor
https://historicalgeneralconferences.weebly.com/john-w-taylor.html
https://tokensandsigns.org/betrayed-for-loyalty-john-w-taylor-and-polygamy/
https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/John-W.-Taylor-Trial.pdf
https://sunstone.org/john-w-woolley-as-a-highly-trusted-mormon-from-september-1886-to-december-1913/
https://mormonfundamentalism.com/history/lorin-c-woolley-and-his-council-of-seven-friends/
https://mormonpolygamydocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/MF0273.pdf
https://mormonfundamentalism.com/1886-revelation-importance/
https://www.fromthedesk.org/joseph-white-musser-mormon-fundamentalist/
https://prophetsseersandrevelators.wordpress.com/2022/09/01/third-manifesto/
https://www.intermountainhistories.org/items/show/704
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/first-annual-message-first-term
MOGP: National Treasure: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368891/?ref_=tt_rvi_i_7
Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/national-treasure
Information about Charles Carroll: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carroll_of_Carrollton#
Explore the Knights Templar: https://www.centreofexcellence.com/the-knights-templar/#
Happy News: A new diabetes treatment could free people from insulin injections: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/type-1-diabetes-cell-therapy-insulin
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism. Here’s the most recent episode on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsofor4IgR8&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g&index=65&t=3640s
And here is our discussion about Mormon succession https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxjD7ucajI&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g&index=56
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