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Ep 190 — Mormon Money pt. 5; Gerald Caussé | Catch Me If You Can 0

Nov 26, 2025

The new apostle for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has taken his seat at the table. Gerald Caussé spent his life in corporate business before his call to the Presiding Bishopric in 2012. In 2015 he ascended to Presiding Bishop and has been the money manager of the church since then. During his tenure, numerous scandals have hit the church related to finances, including a fine from the SEC for falsifying business records to conceal wealth. In the wake of these numerous scandals, Gerald takes his position on the board of the wealthiest religion on the planet. Let’s discuss! After that we chat about Catch Me If You Can, a movie about a con man starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks that does a great job of concealing the truth. Then we have happy news about pain management medications and promising research in that field.

Show Notes:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-07-18/how-the-mormons-make-money?embedded-checkout=true

https://religionnews.com/2025/11/07/im-cautiously-optimistic-about-the-new-lds-apostle/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqt-k5lbrQhddAne7du47HHB6Gfpstoh_gnkML4Mjyb2cciCqUeR9lh0geUR_aem_j1UGWxzM9qQmQJTCjHRRfg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rald_Causs%C3%A9

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/2/14/21133740/mormon-church-finances-billions-presiding-bishopric-ensign-peak-tithing-donations-byu-real-estate/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_E._Stevenson

https://archive.ph/20130102082820/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695267801,00.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXbPxIHkijg

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/gerald-j-causse?lang=eng

https://speeches.byu.edu/speakers/gerald-causse/

https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/4636873Z:FP?embedded-checkout=true

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/08/16/lds-churchs-ensign-peak-reports/

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/feds-fine-mormon-church-5-million

https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023-35

https://ldsflow.com/the-lds-church-a-year-of-global-service-and-impact-w-infographic/

https://doctorow.medium.com/the-mormon-church-owns-the-most-valuable-property-portfolio-in-america-ff590d405dd6

https://www.livescience.com/18094-perceptions-mormonism-americans-infographic.html

https://exploringmormonism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Corporate-structure-image-400.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/8nwznm/breakdown_of_the_humanitarian_aid_vs_church/

https://mormonfamily.net/2666/mormons-in-america

https://mormonwiki.com/Farms_Owned_By_The_Mormon_Church

https://mormonwiki.com/Farmland_Reserve

https://github.com/jsoma/data-studio-projects/issues/287

https://mormonbillions.com/

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/feature/templesquare/dining?lang=eng

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=54478720&itype=cmsid

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-statement-church-finances

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/church-donations-and-reserves?lang=eng

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-finances-and-a-growing-global-church

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-financial-independence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/mitt-romneys-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-campaign/

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng

https://www.polynesia.com/packages?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19311784&gbraid=0AAAAAD_ZKoaNHFjLk9c46VTzwjPJppfQq&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoZDJBhC0ARIsAERP-F_GnjI9U3f9gVGjpeQI6kspteXwPXuh-5JdDFi3aiUVpxghq9HZMZgaAnBREALw_wcB

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8n8dd3/mormonleaks_has_uncovered_13_llcs_limited/

MOGP: Catch Me If You Can: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/?ref_=ttpl_ov_bk

Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/catch-me-if-you-can

Books:

The Greatest Hoax on Earth – Catching Truth, While We Can, by Alan C Logan

Catch Me If You Can: The True Story of a Real Fake, by Frank W. Abagnale and Stan Redding

Frank Abagnale Jr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale

Happy News: A tiny enzyme may hold the key to safer pain relief: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251123085557.htm

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk

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Ep 189 — Endowment Evolution | Heretic 0

Nov 12, 2025

Spring of 1842 was a world-shaping event, the introduction of the endowment ceremony by Joseph Smith to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We’ve talked about it and a few of the more recent changes to the endowment a few times, but this is the overview. What it was when it was introduced, how it changed under Brigham Young, and many of the changes that have happened since his death, all under one (long) segment. Then we talk about Heretic, a movie about two missionaries in a cat-and-mouse game with a well-educated anti-Mormon playing by his own rules. Then we wrap with happy news from ABC and Jimmy Kimmel responding to the government shutdown and SNAP running dry.

Show Notes:

https://addfaith.org/blog/faith/belief/keystonelds/top-10-abandoned-temple-practices-in-latter-day-saint-history/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExVTljWWlzYnQ3cVF2bk1mcHNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR4ldMRGSktTbiKihaWAr75MQpqYcXLwOH1L_n2_hMARqtaV3AFEhm_CQGyvAQ_aem_A-UXdJKWRl0r9HF-XTHanQ

https://mormonr.org/qnas/8yXbNf/changes_to_the_temple_endowment?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21298130384&gbraid=0AAAAApfYZiGCSKCnJskKXVHwOtYoi8FLG&gclid=Cj0KCQiAq7HIBhDoARIsAOATDxAt2apFmzOJxyHKemm-PaDlf5wAy2Yd4mkrE7X-agfFTR0s7wmxAJoaAstJEALw_wcB#footnote-20

https://archive.org/details/historysaints00benngoog/page/n287/mode/2up

https://bhroberts.org/records/qmx2mh-44hPsk/william_clayton_describes_the_nauvoo_endowment

http://www.ldsendowment.org/timeline.html

http://www.ldsendowment.org/emeline.html

https://archive.org/details/dialoguebetweena00vand/page/12/mode/2up?q=vengeance

http://www.ldsendowment.org/1879.html

http://www.ldsendowment.org/1931.html

http://www.ldsendowment.org/lecture.html

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-1-june-1842/8