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Apr 1, 2025

It’s time to examine Joseph-Smith-polygamy skepticism. After the recent Journal of Mormon Polygamy conference, we decided to seriously consider the evidences used by this cohort of Mormon studies, leading us to understand that polygamy was a creation of Brigham Young and the Utah Mormon movement. After that we discuss O Brother, Where Art Thou? An Oddessy movie interweaving many storytelling archetypes and tropes. Then some good news about automotive subsidies coming in the form of tariffs.



Show notes

 

Joseph Smith Wasn’t a Polygamist video playlist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL19uMsnpSU&list=PLmuYPN2xUIM0zw-bwR1MEAJ7gcRL9zuSH&index=5&t=745s

Journal of Mormon Polygamy

https://journalofmormonpolygamy.org/jmp



MOGP: O Brother, Where Art Thou 

IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190590/ 

Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/o-brother-where-art-thou 



Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism. Here’s the most recent episode on what Mormons can teach us about organizing a cult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxjD7ucajI 



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Mar 19, 2025

We have a guest for our main segment this time. Chris Shelton is a cult expert content creator who eats, breathes, and sleeps high-demand, coercive groups. We discuss everything from what makes a group a cult, how to identify them, is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a cult, and proper ways to approach conversations about high-demand groups. Be sure to check out our series collaborating on Chris’s YouTube channel linked below. After that we discuss Don’t Look Up, a 2021 movie about the cult of politics and a major natural disaster that affects everybody across the globe. To wrap up we have a brief chat about a gene-related study on mice and speech patterns before closing out with a review of all our listener mail from the Death Penalty series.

 

Next Live Show: Mon, March 31, 2025 6:00 PM (MT) 

Bryce’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@bryceblankenagel7707 

 

Show Notes

Chris Shelton: 

Chris’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisSheltonMsc 

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Shelton_(author) 

 

MOGP: Don’t Look Up 

IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11286314/?ref_=hm_rvi_i_1 

Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/dont-look-up-2021 



Happy News

https://www.iflscience.com/scientists-put-a-human-language-gene-into-mice-and-curious-things-unfolded-78418

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56579-2

 

Listener Mail link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-some-european-prisons-are-based-dignity-instead-dehumanization

 

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism: Speaking of Cults … Mormonism is a Compliance Culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeW3jvP-RE&t=2973s 

 

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Mar 10, 2025

It’s time for part 2 of our Death Penalty series! Since this is a Mormon podcast, we first look into the history of Mormons and the death penalty. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young both ordered assassinations and fostered environments where random acts of violence became inevitable. The State of Deseret, Utah, has a comparatively bloody, theocratic history. Then we take a broader view of religion and capital punishment. After that, we look into the ethics/morals of capital punishment and give you a look at the Innocence project. We wrap by discussing your responses from Survey #1 as well as our own viewpoints on the subject.

 

Survey #2: After listening to these episodes, we’d like to hear if your insights or opinions have changed and how. https://forms.gle/Vjn48xzWgCWcJR8r8 



Show Notes

Trump v United States: Oral argument on the former president’s immunity claim: https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/trump-v-united-states-oral-argument-on-the-former-presidents-immunity-claim/640481

23-939 Trump v United States (7/1/2024) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

Account of hearing between circa 3 and 9 June 1837 state of Ohio v Joseph Smith for threatening to take life: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/account-of-hearing-between-circa-3-and-9-june-1837-state-of-ohio-v-js-for-threatening-to-take-life/1#facts

Joseph, in the Elder’s Journal, discusses the Kirtland  Bank and Warren Parrish and Grandison Newell’s charges against hi: https://bhroberts.org/records/5tcqZf-vSQSfc/joseph_in_the_elders_journal_discusses_the_kirtland_bank_and_warren_parrish_and_grandison_newells_charges_against_him 

Orson Hyde, Life lessons learned: https://rsc.byu.edu/vol-3-no-2-2002/orson-hyde-life-lessons-learned 

Danites: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/topic/danites 

Danite Manifesto: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Danite_Manifesto

The Danite Constitution and Theories of Democratic Justice in Frontier America: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5074&context=byusq

 

Journal of Mormon History Vol 30, No. 2, 2004: https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043&context=mormonhistory

General Smith’s views of the powers and policy of the government of the United States circa 26 January - 7 February 1844: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/general-smiths-views-of-the-powers-and-policy-of-the-government-of-the-united-states-circa-26-january-7-february-1844/12#full-transcript

Journal of Mormon History Vol 33, No 1, 2007: https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1049&context=mormonhistory

 

The Coming Storm: The murder of Jesse Thompson Hartley: https://user.xmission.com/~research/mormonpdf/storm.pdf 

The wound the never healed: https://www.prestopreservation.com/uploads/5/2/5/3/52533793/morrisite_story_small.pdf 

Official position on capital punishment of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/official-statement/capital-punishment 

 

The Movement to Abolish Capital Punishment in America 1787-1861: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1847110?read-now=1&seq=8

“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caedite_eos._Novit_enim_Dominus_qui_sunt_eius.

The convict's visitor: or, Penitential offices, (in the ancient way of liturgy) consisting of prayers, lessons, and meditations; with suitable devotions before, and at the time of execution. : [Four lines from Luke] / By William Smith, A.M. Rector of Trinity Church in Newport: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=evans;cc=evans;rgn=main;view=text;idno=N18328.0001.001 

 

Arguments for and against the death penalty

“Under sentence of death”: The movement to abolish capital punishment in Massachusetts: https://www.jstor.org/stable/366478?read-now=1&seq=7 

The 2% death penalty: Press Release: https://www.jstor.org/stable/366478?read-now=1&seq=7

10 facts about the death penalty in the U.S.: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/19/10-facts-about-the-death-penalty-in-the-u-s/ 

The Death Penalty — Your questions answered: https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/death-penalty/the-death-penalty-your-questions-answered/ 

Death penalty issues: https://www.theadvocatesforhumanrights.org/Death_Penalty/Issues 

10 reasons why the death penalty is wrong:  https://www.humanrightscareers.com/issues/why-death-penalty-is-wrong/ 

Arguments for and against the death penalty: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/resources/high-school/about-the-death-penalty/arguments-for-and-against-the-death-penalty 

Death penalty debate: https://www.britannica.com/procon/death-penalty-debate 

 

John Brown: 

John Brown: The First American to Hang for Treason: https://werehistory.org/john-brown/ 

John Brown (abolitionist): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist) 

John Brown a Biography: https://www.battlefields.org/learn/biographies/john-brown 

A Look Back at John Brown: https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2011/spring/brown.html 

Bleeding Kansas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Kansas 

Pottawatomie Massacre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottawatomie_massacre 

John Brown’s Raid on Harper’s Ferry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry 

John Brown’s Provisional Constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_Provisional_Constitution 

The Rosenberg’s 

Historical Federal Executions: 

https://www.usmarshals.gov/who-we-are/history/historical-reading-room/historical-federal-executions 

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg 

Atom Spy Case/Rosenbergs: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/atom-spy-caserosenbergs 

The Rosenberg Trial: teacher handout: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://www.fjc.gov/sites/default/files/trials/Rosenberg%20Teacher%20Handout.pdf 

Espionage Act of 1917: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917 

The Origins of the Espionage Act of 1917: Was Judge Learned Hand’s Understanding of the Act Defensible? By Geoffrey R Stone: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=13818&context=journal_articles

Espionage Act of 1917 and Sedition Act of 1918 (1917-1918):https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/historic-document-library/detail/espionage-act-of-1917-and-sedition-act-of-1918-1917-1918  

The Espionage Act’s constitutional legacy: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-espionage-acts-constitutional-legacy 

Hi-Fi Murders

Hi-Fi Murders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Fi_murders 

How the Hi-Fi Murders changed life in Ogden: https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/how-the-hi-fi-murders-changed-life-in-ogden/ 

 

Innocence Project: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/policy/innocence 

Public Officials and Advocates Respod to SCOTUS’ Decision to Overturn Richard Glossip’s Conviction: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/public-officials-and-advocates-respond-to-scotus-decision-to-overturn-richard-glossips-conviction 

RIchard Glossip: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Glossip 




Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism: Speaking of Cults … Mormonism is a Compliance Culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeW3jvP-RE&t=2973s 

 

Other links: 

Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod 

Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social 

Other BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bryceblankenagel.bsky.social  and https://bsky.app/profile/shannongrover.bsky.social  

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Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

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One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com 

Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

 

Feb 19, 2025

We begin our next series, this time on Capital Punishment. We start with the history of crimes throughout written history that justified the death penalty. Then we get into colonial history and how the death penalty was built into the foundations of racist America. Multiple Supreme Court rulings have shifted the landscape. We end with the recent EO attempting to expand the powers of the death penalty.

 

Death Penalty survey #1: https://forms.gle/S31MTYbM8JNsikpe9 

 

Show Notes

 

History of the death penalty: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/history-of-the-death-penalty/ 

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/background/history-of-the-death-penalty/early-history-of-the-death-penalty 

Timeline of the history of the death penalty: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/stories/history-of-the-death-penalty-timeline 

History of the death penalty in USA: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/background/history-of-the-death-penalty 

Death penalty in the U.S.: https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-procedure/the-u-s-and-the-death-penalty.html 

Capital punishment in the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States 

On Crimes and Punishment by Cesare Bonesana di Beccaria, 1764: https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/historic-document-library/detail/cesare-bonesana-di-beccariaon-crimes-and-punishments-1764 Overview of the death penalty and capital trials: History, current status, legal procedures, and cost: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/overview-death-penalty-and-capital-trials-history-current-status 

Crimes act of 1790: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_Act_of_1790 List of women executed in the United States since 1976: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_executed_in_the_United_States_since_1976 

Amnesty International resources
https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/death-penalty/

“The Movement to Abolish Capital Punishment in America, 1787-1861” by David Brion Davis: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1847110?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Study reveals racial bias in executions: https://eji.org/news/study-reveals-racial-bias-in-executions/

“I just wanted to … stay alive” Who was WIlliam Furman, the prisoner at the center of a historic legal decision?: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/i-just-wanted-to-stay-alive-who-was-william-henry-furman-the-prisoner-at-the-center-of-a-historic-legal-decision 

Furman v Georgia:  https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/408/238.html

chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://scholarship.richmond.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1097&context=law-student-publications 

Gregg v Georgia: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/428/153.html 

HIstorical Federal Executions: https://www.usmarshals.gov/who-we-are/history/historical-reading-room/historical-federal-executions 

Judiciary Act of 1789: https://www.usmarshals.gov/who-we-are/history/historical-reading-room/judiciary-act-of-1789-charter-us-marshals-and-deputies 

EO on expanded Death Penalty

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-the-death-penalty-and-protecting-public-safety/

https://prismreports.org/2025/02/10/death-penalty-undocumented-immigrants-trump/

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/florida-lawmakers-push-for-mandatory-death-penalty-in-immigration-crackdown/

Equal Justice Initiative

https://eji.org/issues/death-penalty/

Texas Department of Criminal Justice on DP

https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_facts.html

McCleskey v. Kemp

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/481/279/

EJI on McCleskey v. Kemp

https://eji.org/news/the-legacy-of-mccleskey-v-kemp/

Racial bias in death penalty

https://eji.org/news/study-reveals-racial-bias-in-executions/

Furman v Georgia

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1971/69-5030

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/408/238/

Wilkerson v Utah

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/99/130/

The Movement to Abolish Capitla Punishment by David Brion Davis

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1847110?read-now=1&seq=7#page_scan_tab_contents

Abraham Johnstone address

https://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/johnstone/johnstone.html

Slave Executions in the US

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0362331999800019

Execution statistics in US

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/executions-overview/executions-in-the-u-s-1608-2002-the-espy-file

Thomas Paine opposing execution of Louis XVI

https://alphahistory.com/frenchrevolution/paine-opposes-executing-king-1793/

History of lynching in America

https://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/history-lynching-america#:~:text=Lynchings%20did%20not%20occur%20in,the%20only%20victims%20of%20lynching.

Confronting hte legacy of lynching in America

https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/



Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism: https://youtu.be/gDCeSOr3U-s?si=bjxiWo-jaYtIESKP 

 

Recent Live Show Book Club on Yumi and the Nightmare Painter by Brandon Sanderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxAsGWNVXo 

 

Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod 

Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social 

Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/ 

Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

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One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com 

Venmo: Shannon-Grover-10

 

Feb 5, 2025

3 lawsuits against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We discuss the class action suit, Judson et al v. LDS, the recently tossed case of Huntsman v. LDS, and the civil RICO suit Gaddy v. LDS. Where do they stand? How likely are they to prevail? What are the next steps? We go over them and discuss the implications and steps forward. Then we chat about the 2015 movie Spotlight about the Boston Globe journalists who reported on Cathlolic sex abuse in the early 2000s. We wrap with some happy news about a new solar plant being built in Oregon!

 

We are on BlueSky now! If you’re on BlueSky already, you can find us @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social, @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social, or by following the link in the show notes below!



Show Notes

Gaddy v. LDS

https://casetext.com/case/gaddy-v-corp-of-the-president-of-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/utah/utdce/2:2019cv00554/116009/141/

https://becketfund.org/case/gaddy-v-corporation-of-the-president-of-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints/

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.116009/gov.uscourts.utd.116009.135.3.pdf

https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/75208-gaddy-lawsuit-judgement/page/2/

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-utd-2_19-cv-00554/pdf/USCOURTS-utd-2_19-cv-00554-3.pdf

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16025781/gaddy-v-corporation-of-the-president-of-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UQYzFYaxc

 

Judson et al v. LDS

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/utah/utdce/2:2024cv00296/147894

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.912925/gov.uscourts.cacd.912925.1.0_1.pdf

https://casetext.com/case/chappell-v-corp-of-the-president-of-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-sts/case-details

https://www.abc4.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2024/01/Judsons_v_Church-et.-al.pdf

 

Huntsman v. LDS

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2023/08/07/21-56056.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0z0RlmuGbs4QHRVQ6byrR4hxtFMJnO3ATZY6_OZoxAa0amlQMV1hjt_u8

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2023/08/07/21-56056.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0z0RlmuGbs4QHRVQ6byrR4hxtFMJnO3ATZY6_OZoxAa0amlQMV1hjt_u8

https://www.seegerweiss.com/news/lds-church-members-file-class-action-suit-over-misuse-of-donations/

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/litigation-continues-in-federal-actions-alleging-fraud-with-lds-tithings#google_vignette

https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/lds-church-federal-court-tithing/

https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/10324777/james-huntsman-v-corporation-of-the-president/?q=huntsman+v+lds

https://becketnewsite.s3.amazonaws.com/20250131123631/21-56056.pdf

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2025/01/31/huntsman-tithing-lawsuit-dismissed-9th-circuit-panel/

 

Other related resources:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-267/132540/20200210155952382_19-26719-348tsacNationalRightToWork.pdf

https://www.uua.org/re/tapestry/adults/river/workshop9/178594.shtml

https://supreme.justia.com/cases-by-topic/religion/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._Shelby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOqZHyxbtg

https://www.mormonstories.org/church-on-trial-history-fraud/

https://wasmormon.org/facts-vs-beliefs-no-limit-at-all-on-what-church-is-required-to-teach-or-not-teach/

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/121/1327/2505205/

https://www.churchlawcenter.com/church-law/when-churches-own-a-business/



MOGP

 

Spotlight (2015): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895587/?ref_=tttrv_ov 

Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spotlight 

 

Articles: 

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film) 

Wired: https://www.wired.com/2015/11/spotlight-journalism-movies/ 

LA Press Club Veritas award: https://lapressclub.org/veritas/  

 

Happy News

https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/oregon-to-host-nations-largest-solar-plus-storage-installation

 

Recent Live Show Book Club on Yumi and the Nightmare Painter by Brandon Sanderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxAsGWNVXo 

 

Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod 

Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social 

Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social

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Jan 22, 2025

It’s time to start a new year and new book for our long-form deep dive reviews of terrible Mormon books. And this one is… not terrible? The Givens present a form of Mormon theology which tries to “make sense of life” and we’re here for any Mormon theology that doesn’t include discrimination, sexism, and anything holding it over from its past. We dive into the introduction and first chapter of the book. But, what would a book review be without some due diligence about the authors? We spend the first portion talking about Terryl and Fiona Givens, their histories, publishing careers, and try to get a sense for what we can expect throughout this book.

 

Terryl and Fiona Givens:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Givens

https://www.fionagivens.com/about

https://www.patheos.com/topics/2014-religious-trends/mormon/joseph-smith-on-mormon-women-and-the-priesthood-fiona-givens-071014?p=2

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-perfect-union-of-man-and-womanreclamation-and-collaboration-in-joseph-smiths-theology-making/

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/missing-and-restoring-meaning/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terryl_Givens

https://www.terrylgivens.com/about

https://web.archive.org/web/20110827023337/http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705385222/Daniel-Peterson-Terryl-Givens-making-his-mark-in-Mormon-writing.html

https://www.google.com/books/edition/By_the_Hand_of_Mormon/cC_RCwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA3&printsec=frontcover

https://www.deseret.com/2012/11/15/20509757/scholars-terryl-and-fiona-givens-discuss-life-love-and-their-new-book-the-god-who-weeps/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA7kdkzW09c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yecCget_CNM

 

Sword of Laman

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer

https://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

 

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Jan 8, 2025

BYU and SLC anti-vice. We discuss the history of Charles A. Callis, his career in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and politics, and his final assignment before death, creating a sexual purity surveillance and counseling/therapy program for Mormons in the 40s. After his death, Spencer W. Kimball took the reins and vastly expanded the reach and purposes of the program, resulting in The Miracle of Forgiveness. Cleon Skousen was running raids on gay clubs and anybody else seen as commie enemies of god’s country. The systems they created have adapted, evolved, and conformed to the times, but never gone away, as evidenced by the recent SL Tribue piece about BYU’s retrenchment and culture of fear. Then we chat about Minority report, a Tom Cruise sci-fi flick with surprisingly profound concepts. We wrap with happy news about the first openly transgender congressperson in American history.

 

Show Notes

https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/

https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/05-the-miracle-of-forgiveness/

https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/16-the-cure-2-0/

https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/07-salt-lake-city-gay-scene/

https://archive.org/details/spencerwkimballt00kimb/page/271/mode/2up?view=theater

https://ourphoenixfoundation.org/includes/about.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_International

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/gay/individuals?lang=eng

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender/understanding?lang=eng

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/05/byu-blue-why-these-are-dark-days/

https://fairnessforall.org/the-utah-compromise/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen

https://police.slc.gov/about/history/

https://lris.com/recent-developments/2012/05/salt-lake-city-vice-squad-disbanded/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Smoot_hearings

https://prophetsseersandrevelators.wordpress.com/2021/10/31/the-political-manifesto/

https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/DE2/id/201100

https://news.google.com.au/newspapers?nid=Aul-kAQHnToC&dat=18961109&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

https://www.uen.org/utah_history_encyclopedia/e/ELECTIONS.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_(Utah)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1896_United_States_presidential_election_in_Utah

https://archive.org/details/improvementera3707unse/page/434/mode/2up?view=theater

https://archiveviewer.org/collections/en/improvement-era#1934

https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/david-o-mckay-diary-excerpts/w-cleon-skousen/

https://www.qsaltlake.com/news/2009/09/28/the-oppressive-50s/

http://www.nomorestrangers.org/timeline-of-mormon-thinking-about-homosexuality/

http://www.elisarolle.com/queerplaces/fghij/Jack%20Pembroke.html

https://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/sensibilities/utah.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Utah#Conversion_therapy

https://books.google.com/books?id=rlC1DgAAQBAJ&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Brigham_Young_University_LGBTQ_history

https://web.archive.org/web/20100122080551/http://www.affirmation.org/memorial/joseph_fielding_smith.shtml

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1981/04/elder-charles-a-callis-twentieth-century-missionary?lang=eng

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_A._Callis

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2001/04/them-that-honour-me-i-will-honour?lang=eng

https://thesingleleaf.com/tag/charles-albert-callis/

https://rsc.byu.edu/prophets-apostles-last-dispensation/charles-albert-callis

https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/2d1fb5a0-211a-4908-baca-5e3dd9e145eb/0/178?lang=eng

https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/chd/individual/charles-albert-callis-1866?lang=eng



Article Shannon brought up: The Role of the LDS Church in Utah Politics: An Insider’s Look  https://www.mrm.org/utah-politics 

 

MOGP: Minority Report: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/?ref_=tttrv 

Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/minority-report 

 

Happy News:

https://apnews.com/article/sarah-mcbride-congress-transgender-lgbtq-delaware-9cce7f778e6b57dfdb08986d7410404e?taid=677918364fe1660001b83485&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

 

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