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Feb 4, 2026

Ready for more Dallin Oaks stuff? First we talk about a letter Joseph Smith wrote to W.W. Phelps. Then we discuss the law review article  “Ethics, Mortality, and Professional Responsibility”, by Dallin Oaks published October 1975 in the BYU Law Review. For the Sword of Laman, we take a look at the first two chapters of Oaks’ book Pure In Heart.  We finish it off with some happy news about a judge overturning Trump’s block of an off-shore wind project that could power 600,000 homes. Enjoy! 

 

Show Notes

Letter to W. W. Phelps Jan 11, 1833

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-william-w-phelps-11-january-1833/2#historical-intro

Modern D&C 52

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revelation-6-june-1831-dc-52/2

Ethics, Morality, and Professional Responsibility by Dallin Oaks

http://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=lawreview

Wickersham Commission

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/wickersham-commission

Criminal Justice in U.S. History

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/criminal-justice-us-history

 

Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks 

Woes of the Pharisees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woes_of_the_Pharisees 

Cleansing the Inner Vessel by Ezra Taft Benson (April 1986 GenCon): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1986/04/cleansing-the-inner-vessel?lang=eng 

Inspiring Music, Worthy Thoughts by Boyd K Packer (GenCon 1973): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1973/10/inspiring-music-worthy-thoughts?lang=eng 

Worthy Music, Worthy Thoughts (1976 filmstrip): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ5Z6AoEKuY 

Richard G Scott in April  GenCon 1992: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1992/04/healing-the-tragic-scars-of-abuse?lang=eng  

 

Happy News: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/02/trump-halted-offshore-wind-project-to-proceed

 

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME 

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look!  Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

 

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Jan 21, 2026

Well, it’s time. Let’s talk about President Dallin Harris Oaks, the Hoaks man, the Mormon Gollum. First, we cover the biography In the Hands of the Lord: The Life of Dallin H. Oaks by Richard Turley. Then we take a look at Hoaks’ book The Carthage Conspiracy, as well as a presentation from 2021 where he actually uttered a prophecy! And after all that, we share some amazing science news. Researchers at Johns Hopkins have uncovered a surprising new way to influence brain activity by targeting a long-mysterious class of proteins linked to anxiety, schizophrenia, and movement disorders. Enjoy!

 

Show Notes

Cyrus Dallin Sculptor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Edwin_Dallin 

Cyrus Dallin: https://dallin.org/about-cyrus-dallin/ 

Stella Oaks Foundation: https://www.stellahoaks.org/   

Law Review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_review 

Supreme Court case 1957-1958: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1957 

Chief Justice Earl Warren: https://www.oyez.org/justices/earl_warren 

The Sit-In: 40 years later: https://chicagomaroon.com/22887/grey-city/the-sit-in-40-years-later/ 

Studying the Exclusionary Rule in Search and Seizure: https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/studying-exclusionary-rule-search-and-seizure 

Why Dress and Grooming Standards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56pD3WMPQao 

Talk of the Month: Standards of Dress and Grooming: https://bhroberts.org/records/0spyAV-0Dx8uN/dallin_h_oaks_explains_byu_grooming_standards_in_the_new_era 

Internal Revenue Service Investigations of Unidentified Persons, Denver Law Review: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2923&context=dlr 

United States vs Brigham Young University: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/485/534/1377372/ 

The Wall Between Church and State: https://archive.org/details/wallbetweenchurc0000oaks/page/n5/mode/2up  

 

MoGP:

Carthage Conspiracy by Dallin Oaks and Marvin Hill

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p007620

Dallin Oaks Lecture Nov 12, 2021 @ University of Virginia Mormon Studies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0r2YIAsOQs

 

Happy News:  A “dormant” brain protein turns out to be a powerful switch: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260118233607.htm 

 

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk 

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look!  Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

 

Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod 

Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social 

Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/ 

Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html

One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com 

Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

 

Jan 7, 2026

Welcome to 2026! We start out the year talking to an interesting person — Chris Mitsch — a Professor of Computer Science, whose focus has been on AI ethics. We discuss a variety of technologies known as AI, the limitations, costs, potential uses, who stands to benefit, and a litany of related issues. This leads to our MOGP segment, where we watched A.I.: Artificial Intelligence, of course! And we close the episode with a round-up of good energy news from 2025.

 

Show Notes

Papers mentioned during the interview:

Does Liking Yellow Imply Driving a School Bus? By Gonen et. al.

https://aclanthology.org/2025.naacl-long.35/

The Reversal Curse: LLMs trained on “A is B” fail to learn “B is A” by Berglund et. al.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12288

Seeing like a State by James C. Scott

https://files.libcom.org/files/Seeing%20Like%20a%20State%20-%20James%20C.%20Scott.pdf

The Mechanic and the Luddite by Jathan Sadowski

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite/paper

Empire of AI by Haren Hao

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743569/empire-of-ai-by-karen-hao/

 

MOGP

A.I. (Artificial Intelligence)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/

 

Happy News

https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/clean-energy/clean-energy-renewables-charts-2025

 

Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways to Cure Everything by Lydia Kang and Nate Pedersen

 

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk 

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look!  Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

 

Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod 

Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social 

Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/ 

Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html

One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com 

Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

 

Dec 24, 2025

As per tradition, we’re talking all media to round out the year! Our theme is past, present, future; we’re discussing what influenced both of us the most in each category. Thanks for hanging out with us this past year!

 

Shan:

Past: The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare 

Present: 

The Radium Girls: The Dark Story of America’s Shining Women by Kate Moore.

A Woman of No Importance: The Untold Story of the American Spy Who Helped Win World War II, by Sonia Purnell 

Sylvia Pankhurst: Natural Born Rebel, by Rachel Holmes

The Sisterhood: The Secret History of the Women at the CIA, by Liza Mundy 

The Woman They Could Not Silence: One Woman, Her Incredible Fight for Freedom, and the Men Who Tried to Make Her Disappear, Kate Moore

Ten Days in a Mad-House: The Original 1887 Edition (Nellie Bly’s Experience On Blackwell’s Island) by Nellie Bly 

Nellie Bly: Daredevil. Reporter. Feminist by Brooke Kroeger

The Secret Life of Dr James Barry: Victorian England’s Most Eminent Surgeon, by Rachel Holmes 

Future: Star Trek 

 

Bryce:

Past: Grand Theft Auto

Present: The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaquui Way of Knowledge by Carlos Castaneda

Future: Age of Disclosure



Show Notes

History of Grand Theft Auto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKPUS7pu5Y

The Teachings of Don Juan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Teachings_of_Don_Juan

The Aliens are Here (Again)! A Review of The Age of Disclosure by Michael Shermer

https://www.skeptic.com/article/the-aliens-are-here-again-a-review-of-the-age-of-disclosure/

Skeptic debunks of UFO/UAP videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHDlfIaBEqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuhkVTJ6A_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om0d0u1ASJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64zlyzojpPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs&t=1093s

 

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk 

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look!  Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

 

Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod 

Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social 

Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/ 

Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html

One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com 

Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

 

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